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A Bunch of Stupid Things To Do to Get Hired

A Bunch of Stupid Things To Do to Get Hired

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(or not)Grace Killelea recently wrote a post titled, "Women shouldn't have to take off their engagement rings to get hired." I thought the title was a joke. I am neither on the job market nor a woman. I am by no means an expert on the subject. 

Yet, I was intrigued. 

I read the post. 

In it, Grace discusses another post, on another platform, that actually suggested women remove engagement rings to increase their odds of getting hired.

AUTHOR"S NOTE: This is my response to a post published here. I did not read the original post Ms. Killelea refers to, nor do I refer to it. Perhaps it was quoted out of context, I don't know. I'm just having a little fun here.

Back to the post...

The logic is that an interviewer may take your rock badly. They may consider you vain or, and here I quote, high-maintenance. 

Grace thought the idea was ludicrous. 

No poop, Grace.

It boggles my mind to see what passes for "career advice" out there. I wrote my last CV in 1998, so I'm no job hunting expert, but still.

Sure, I guess it's theoretically possible that an interviewer may feel intimidated and have a negative opinion of you. 

It's also possible that your face reminds them of a schoolyard bully and they take an immediate dislike to you.

It may be an idea to have extensive plastic surgery prior to any interview.

Hey, I said it was an idea. I didn't say it was a good one.

For the heck of it, let's take the suggestion to remove your engagement ring as stone-cold truth. What is the logical progression?

The "TRUTH" 

You should remove your engagement ring to increase your odds of getting hired. A large ring may trigger resentment or jealousy, particularly in a female interviewer. We all know how petty women are, right? (OMG! I can't believe I wrote that.)  

Corollary 1

Hmmm, I guess the same would be true about nice clothing. The petty female interviewer may be intimidated by the fact that your clothes are nicer than hers. Women should, therefore wear sloppy, preferably stained or damaged, clothing to an interview. 

Come to think of it, that may not be enough. 

Consider nudity.

Corollary 2 

Hair and make-up may also be seen as high-maintenance. I mean, think about it. DeBeers tells us a diamond is forever. Forever is a long time. 

Hair and makeup, over time, can easily pass the cost of an engagement ring. What the hell are you thinking??? 

Do not groom, brush your hair or apply make-up prior to an interview. Just roll out of bed and head out the door. 

Don't stop to shower. 

Body odor is natural. It's important that the interviewer sees and smells the real you.

Corollary 3

Thinking about brushing hair got me thinking about brushing teeth. Wow, dental care is also an expensive proposition. Why risk alienating an interviewer? Do they even have a dental plan?

Play it safe.

It is best to not brush or floss for several days prior to any interview. Use many words with H sounds to let the interviewer know how "with it" you are. 

Force the H sounds out.

Corollary 4

Many women are purse aficionados. A high-end purse or even just a good knock off may trigger jealousy in the interviewer. 

Use grocery bags instead. Ideally, use the reusable bags. 

Many women are bleeding heart tree-huggers, don't you know.

Side Logic 1

Removing your engagement ring helps you get hired by not triggering jealousy. Remove your wedding band as well. 

That way, male interviewers may believe they "have a shot," and hire you. This is especially effective when used in conjunction with Side Logic 2.

Side Logic 2 

Unless you elect to show up nude to the interview, seriously consider dressing as sexily as possible. Do not do this if the interviewer is female and straight. She may get jealous if you're hotter than she is. 

This strategy is vital if interviewed by a male. We're all pigs. We lose our minds at the sight of boob-curve.

If the interview is going badly with a male interviewer throw in comments suggesting you "sleep around." 

That always works well.

Corollary 5

Many women are boob snobs. If you happen to be well-endowed in that department, use an elastic bandage to squish the girls down. Otherwise, you risk offending a less-endowed interviewer. 

On the other hand, if the interviewer is male.....

Finding a job is serious business. 

No, I'm not being serious about any of these "suggestions." 

I really hope people read this all the way through before flaming me. In a way, this is a rant.

Finding the right job is more important than finding A job. That means finding a position that fits you and you fit it. 

It's debatable if one can "fake it 'til you make it." If you fake it to get it, how long can you keep it up?

If you really need to pretend to be someone else to land that job, chances are you won't stick around long enough for it to matter.

Why bother?



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Comments

Dean Owen

7 years ago #20

#31
Asia will evolve in it's own way. Asia is diverse. In the Philippines, often I see it is the women that are the breadwinners. In Japan, girls dream of getting married and having babies. Doctors are primary targets. They will settle into an interim role as an "office lady" or OL until they get pregnant. They are almost conditioned to accept gender discrimination. It makes it tough for the career minded women. Asia is evolving, but that is not to say it should evolve into a Western style mentality. There is good and bad mentality in every society. I mix with a lot of Western expat wives who love their life spending afternoons in shopping mall cafes. Amour Setter said it best "A woman's place is wherever she feels comfortable, not where you think she belongs."

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #19

#27
Ahh, Dean-san, you may catch a flame or two for that one. The raw unpleasant truth is that western culture thought the same not so very long ago. It was addressed in the movie, "Mona Lisa Smile." That movie was set in the 1950's. The mentality was still around and strong into the 80's.A friend's mother told her and my ex, "It's too bad you girls have to work. Ron (her husband) was always able to support me. I only worked for two years before we got married and you (Darlene) came around." She was quite proud of herself. Finding a husband was the goal. Being a housewife was the career. She didn't understand that they WANTED to work. That is neither the "right" way nor the "wrong" way. It was simply "the" way. I also read a thesis in the late 80's that claimed that unemployment could be solved by simply sending women back to the home. Mathematically it makes sense. Of course, sending men back to the home would have the same mathematical result. I don't think the author considered that.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #18

#29
Glad you liked it, Irene Hackett

Dean Owen

7 years ago #17

I loved this buzz Paul-san, mainly as you paint such a different picture from the culture in Asia I see it as a cartoon! But Asia does have serious problems especially as it equates to gender discrimination, but it has nothing to do with looks, but more to do with the large majority of ladies actually wanting to drop out of the workforce and become housewives once a baby comes along.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #16

#24
I think that is the first time anyone has called me a feminist. I guess, as a father to a daughter, I am! Actually, I'm a peoplist. If that isn't a word, it should be

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #15

I just want to make it clear that Grace Killelea DID NOT suggest taking off engagement rings. She was quoting the suggestion from another post. She argued against it.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #14

#17
see #12 Pascal Derrien

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #13

#20
lol. Yeah guys usually forget that waitresses and barmaids work on tips. That isn't sexist. It's just them taking advantage of stupidity. In college, I had a friend who was convinced that every barmaids was into him. I'll smile pretty too for a $2 tip on a $3 beer.(it was a while ago)

Randy Keho

7 years ago #12

How's it feel to walk in mile in my shoes? Paul \ Every time I comment on a subject dear to women, in jest or not, I end up feeling like I've walked into a minefield. I was chastised on the original post for commenting on the fact that female bartenders, who are attached, often remove their rings. It allows them to flirt with unsuspecting men in order to generate more tips. It didn't go over well. Another case of buyer beware.

Pascal Derrien

7 years ago #11

#10
Hmm you are the serious matter expert I will welcome your thoughts on this ? :-)

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #10

Any time, Aaron Skogen. There are a lot of silly suggestions out there.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #9

#11
To be honest, Sasa Radovic, never. This is by no means a serious set of suggestions. I thought the "stupid" in the title would make that obvious.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #8

#11
To be honest, Sasa Radovic, never. This is by no means a serious set of suggestions.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #7

#9
#8 Okay, I think you guys are trying to get me in trouble. No matter... here goes. The inspiration for #5 came from real-life. A co-worker and friend from years ago had a slight build with large breasts. She was very self-conscious about them. Rather than wear a bra, she would tape them down as described in the post. Then, we organized a company picnic/pool party. A bikini doesn't hide much. After the initial shock/surprise, everyone took it in stride. She stopped the practice. I never asked why she started.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #6

#8
Really, In what way, Pascal? Not that it's a serious point anyway.

Pascal Derrien

7 years ago #5

Paul I am all about exploring my feminine side but can you help me with point 5 please ?

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #4

#4
LOL, Okay, Okay. I'll go fix it. Grace is also my sister-in-law's name. I call her "Goofy"

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #3

#2
Hmmm, you may be right, Kev. I moved it up

Kevin Pashuk

7 years ago #2

You realize that you are entering dangerous territory leaving the disclaimer till the end? I use 'Vegemite' to make my case.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #1

Grace Killelea inspired this post

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