'Older' Workers vs 'Vintage' Workers.

💜@Kevin Pashuk 

Having worked in the staffing industry 18 years .. I know well the quiet .. rarely acknowledged reality of age discrimination.

Sadly, many employers suffer from greed and a great lack of appreciation for “chronologically advantaged” employees. 

I like to think of some people in the workplace as artists. 

For time is one of the factors that can improve one’s art.

Though time is not a guarantee. And there are many other factors.

The reality is that mediocrity merely repeats itself 

A true artist becomes a “master”

And that is seen in what is created.

It is the artist who makes the determination. 💜💜

Glad to see you here, Kevin. I saw your post on LinkedIn too. But as seen, discussing on LinkedIn cannot compare with discussing on beBee. :) In this respect, beBee is unique.

Calling someone a ‘vintage’ person, to me, sounds like a compliment. Being recognised as someone of enduring interest, uniqueness and quality is what I would like for myself. 

You are all excused :-)

Sure we oldies can serve a useful purpose, Kev, and that confident and mature attitude that comes with years of getting it wrong, until that one day it all comes together, can be labelled as experience. But I‘ve found that the most effective solutions are developed by a diverse team of varying ages, genders and backgrounds. Lack of diversity can result in short sighted and biased solutions. By all means lets celebrate the tone that comes from a battered old instrument, but every now and then we all need to be stimulated by new sounds produced on instruments we didn’t know existed, and by younger hands we didn’t realise were old enough to play with such skill. Balance is a two way street, Kev. Mind you, when I see those who are up and coming and still honing their skills, I’m reminded of the ‘good old days’ … when I wasn’t good and I wasn’t old. 😂🤣😂

Hi Kevin

Nice piece Thanks for writing.

Someone who has been around the block and loves what they do will contribute a lot. I worked as a consultant for thirty-seven years, loved every minute of it. Now at 74 I love retirement, writing stories and songs and playing my 1960 Regal flattop. It has aged very well.

I had a 1970 Mossmen that developed a warped neck. I have a warped mind. Sorry, Kevin, I'm not sure I've helped your argument or not.

It's interesting how there is a trend (or at least there was last I checked) of modern workers striving to retire early, so that they can do what they enjoy, instead of the 9-to-5 routine. I suppose it's a sign of our times where work is next to impossible to align with vocation or enjoyment. Nevertheless, it's still possible in some industries. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why entrepreneurs tend to retire late (if at all). Cheers

Kevin, welcome back. Great topic. I'm guessing but I believe one way to find the vintage people is that they don't retire unless forced to. I earned my spurs in the ad game in the Mad Men era and I can vette Jim Murray's comment. REading and understanding Scientific Advertising by Claude Hopkins should be required to get any ad job in my view.

Nice work Kevin. The vintage people in my business are by far the most interesting, The not-so-vintage people, they have very little sense of the power of an idea. I wish someone could teach them, but so many have slotted the vintage people back into the past, believing that the only ideas that work these days are the new ones. Their loss. Someone should teach a course on advertising the way it used to be in the 60s and 70s. That would be a real eye opened for a lot of people.

#1Nice to see you again Renée

I've been spending much of my flexible time on photography, but am at a place where I want to start unpacking my thoughts around people of a certain vintage who still want to dent the universe and aren't ready to buy into the social construct of retirement.  The best place to unpack ideas is in community, which is why I'm back here on beBee.