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UPSIDE - DOWNSIDE

UPSIDE - DOWNSIDE

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One would think from today's result from Old Trafford that Manchester United had their butts right royally kicked, but that could not be further from the truth.  After a very poor effort and display at Brighton last week.  Today the United players to a man upped their game, they recognized their failure the week before and sought to make amends. 

The United players tried, they subdued a Tottenham team in the first half, out shooting them 10 shots to 2 to underline their dominance.  Yet there is trying and then there is trying to hard.  When Lukaku missed an open goal in the opening minutes, the script was being written for the creation of a mini-crisis.

In the weeks before this match, it was Tottenham who were cast as the crisis club. Much was said about Tottenham becoming the first team to spend zero pounds since the transfer window was created.  Yet it was not lack of spending that was the story that unfolded today but not selling their top rated Belgian center-half Toby Alderweireld.  That was helped by Edward Woodward vetoing the sale because Spurs wanted too much.

It is a player that Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho desperately needed and had Toby been playing in red today, the results for United would probably mirror the great start Tottenham have experienced.   Ironically, all the hullabaloo about Tottenham not signing players and not having their new stadium ready for the new season, actually has seemed to lower expectations for Tottenham - yet remain absolutely high for Manchester United.

What was a perceived downside for Tottenham at the beginning of the season has become an upside and the Tottenham defense that included Toby did not concede today and the score and success Spurs achieved today, will add to their upside. That upside came with them simply having nothing to lose.

Jose Mourinho - a master of the moment applauded his fans at the end of the game.  Protests are expected at the next United game against Burnley - and as the disappointed Manchester United fans applauded Mourinho back, and that calculated move took the angst towards the United front office.  That added to the downside for them because even if they wanted to fire Mourinho - doing so now will only accelerate that downside for them.

If Tottenham can win the 100% Win Club game against unlikely top four position club Watford, the upside begins to grow even more.  The confidence instilled by winning at Old Trafford in an absolutely emphatic manner will grow and it will grow even more if the confidence instilled gets them past Liverpool at Wembley Stadium, a game which was meant to be the opening game at the new stadium.

If Manchester United lose at Burnley next week, the downside accelerates exponentially.  Yet if they had converted their chances today and had been a little more relaxed to enable that conversion, then the club would have poured cold water on all the detractors ready to cite a club crisis and condemn the team.  This is the difference between being on an upside and sliding on the downside and today the desire by the United players to give their best - simply backfired.

As each shot was either blocked or saved or inches wide, trying too hard came into being a factor, and as Tottenham began to find the net in the second half, just like someone knocking nails into a coffin, a crisis was being born before our eyes.  For sure the United supporters have had a long running feud with the owners The Glazers  - and have wanted them out of the club.  Now that is calculated into this rising downside.

Mourinho instinctively knew that this fire was in the offering and knew that either way - either he was saying his goodbye to the club or he can create the backlash against a club that did not support their manager in fullfilling his wishlist - that included a Spurs player who played in a defense that shut his team out. 

The next chapter will be its own story but the story today is the narrow line between what becomes an upside and what becomes a downside - and how trying too hard to win can actually be the start of that downside.  Spurs were relaxed, United were desperate to perform - these are the cruel ironies of life - and so it was how this played out what fans call the Theatre of Dreams at Old Trafford, Manchester.

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CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #6

#10
#10 Both Ed Woodward and Daniel Levy are financiers because what we know as a working man's game is now a game for the super rich. Spurs did not partake in what are now the twice a year billion dollar transfer market Spurs did not buy players in that billion dollar transfer game because they are currently spending a billion dollars trying to get a stadium open. Why a soccer stadium needs a rectractable pitch so that NFL games can be played on it, just shows how much closer the Premier League has become to American sport. When VAR comes around expect more referee signalling a huge rectangle - but that rectangle is a reason to stop the game so eventually the soccer fans get used to even more ads. Private boxes hold the real owners of soccer - and the working man is paying ever increasing prices for really hugely priced season tickets. Under that backdrop sits the angst of true United fans who even created a whole new team FC United of Manchester as an FU to the Glazers. Ultimately money is the new ball, and supporters hope that Mark Zuckerberg or some billionaire in Dubai will come in and pay $2 billion dollars to buy Chelsea or Tottenham. Even the Fulham owners who owns an NFL franchise is talking up buying Wembley Stadium from the FA for what is relatively cheap in comparison purchase price of $1 billion dollars . When TV sports paid $5 billion to buy rights to Premier League games - United lost its monopoly position as the wealthy elite. As soon as team can be bought, even teams like Manchester City can compete for the title. I remember with great pain the comeback moment when Spurs blew a 3-0 lead and that damn game is repeated on Classic PL Games. Those days of Alex Ferguson are days of yesteryear - when we discuss football, we are holding on to the working man;s spirit of the beautiful game. Mourinho as a rebel is extremely entertaining in this spectacle - but maybe he is also becoming yesterday's man.

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #5

#10
Both Ed Woodward and Daniel Levy are financiers because what knew as a working man's game is now a game for the super rich. Spurs did not partake in what are now the twice a year billion dollar transfer market Spurs did not buy players in that billion dollar transfer game because they are currently spending a billion dollars trying to get a stadium open. Why a soccer stadium needs a rectractable pitch so that NFL games can be played on it, just shows how much closer the Premier League has become to American sport. When VAR comes around expect more referee signalling a huge rectangle - but that rectangle is a reason to stop the game so eventually the soccer fans get used to even more ads. Private boxes hold the real owners of soccer - and the working man is paying ever increasing prices for really hugely priced season tickets. Under that backdrop sits the angst of true United fans who even created a whole new team FC United of Manchester as an FU to the Glazers. Ultimately money is the new ball, and supporters hope that Mark Zuckerberg or some billionaire in Dubai will come in and pay $2 billion dollars to buy Chelsea or Tottenham. Even the Fulham owners who owns an NFL franchise is talking up buying Wembley Stadium from the FA for what is relatively cheap in comparison purchase price of $1 billion dollars . When TV sports paid $5 billion to buy rights to Premier League games - United lost its monopoly position as the wealthy elite. As soon as team can be bought, even teams like Manchester City can compete for the title. I remember with great pain the comeback moment when Spurs blew a 3-0 lead and that damn game is repeated on Classic PL Games. Those days of Alex Ferguson are days of yesteryear - when we discuss football, we are holding on to the working man;s spirit of the beautiful game. Mourinho as a rebel is extremely entertaining in this spectacle - but maybe he is also becoming yesterday's man.

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #4

#7
Unfortunately for Manchester United it is a battle of egos. Mourinho does not acknowledge that he did get the center backs he asked for in Bailley and Lindelof but they are nothing in comparison to the three center backs in the Tottenham defense and one of them is a young Columbian lad called Davison Sanchez. United thought he was too young, whereas Pochettino who has a reputation for developing young players took a chance on him. Sanchez blossomed during the World Cup and it will be interesting if Pochettino will play both Sanchez and Alderweireld, because both play in the same position. Had United won on Monday they would have been back on track. This is why I have titled this buzz UPSIDE and DOWNSIDE because momentum is a key thing, and you are right that the Burnley game will be nerve testing for the United lads, because one cannot place a price on the rise and fall of confidence. Tottenham now have momentum, so long as they do not lose it against Watford and then Liverpool, and Manchester United players are in the middle of a ego battle between Jose Mourinho and Edward Woodward - both hoping the other will be sacked . These political tensions do undermine the team and ultimately the Manchester United fans understand that a manager needs to be supplied the resources he asked for, and which they saw for themselves on Monday. United did not score any goals because of Toby Alderweireld's timely play and not just because Spurs scored. Alderweireld's best quality as a defender is his eye for the long ball that splits the other defense and gives Tottenham forward an extra tactical option as they run at a team. Had United bought him, this game would not have unraveled for United and Alderweireld would have fixed the backbone of United - but Ed Woodward did not think he was a better upgrade on the defensive players United have - and against Brighton and now Tottenham - Ed Woodward has been proven massively wrong.

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #3

#4
Watford play Tottenham next in match that sees both North London teams with a 100% record. I agree this is a stern test for Tottenham. Manchester United actually face a struggling Burnley, but Burnley is a local team in the Manchester area, so a loss against Burnley is much much worse than losing points to Watford. Burnley players would much rather beat Manchester United than Tottenham because of there locality. Guess who the Manchester United fans want fired at Manchester United - not Jose Mourniho but Edward Woodward https://talksport.com/football/414071/manchester-united-ed-woodward-banner-burnley/

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #2

#2
We don't have long to wait to see who is now the better gelled team - Liverpool or Tottenham, because Liverpool are coming to Wembley Stadium to play Tottenham in 2 weeks time. Manchester City face Spurs at the end of October with the venue for that game up in the air due to Tottenham's new stadium problems. The result of those two games will determine whether Tottenham are the perennial pretenders or ironically in not being able to offload players that did have their heads turned by "bigger teams" - now are finding that those players are coming back into the fold. For sure Liverpool have bought very well and are strong in every position now but the understanding Spurs players have has been honed, so long as it is not undermined by Tottenham players who get their heads turned by big money offers from Real Madrid, Manchester United or Bayern Munich. The downside for Tottenham is the ever-present destabilization, one which players agents try to make money off. The UPSIDE for Tottenham is that the man of the match Lucas Moura was also being touted to be offloaded as surplus to requirements - but Moura is giving his all to the club since his move from PSG. The irony is that the worlds most expensive player Neymar told PSG NOT to sell Lucas Moura (who could not get into the PSG team) and told them that Moura has qualities that PSG need. Spurs too were on the cusp of making the same mistake as PSG did but Heung-Min Son went to play for South Korea in the Asian games because a gold medal win will mean he does not have to do 2 years of National Service in the South Korean military - something all young Korean men are obliged to do. That is what gave Lucas Moura his opening in the Tottenham team. That is the margins that move teams from the downside to the upside or the upside to the downside.

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #1

#1
This is a case of listening to what Manchester United fans are now saying, because the Manchester United executive vice-chairman Edward Woodward decided in a show of who is in control at Manchester United, blocked the move Jose Mourinho wanted to buy Toby Alderweireld from Tottenham. The United players actually played their heart out for Jose Mourinho but the defensive frailties that Mourinho was desperate to fix required either the signing of Alderweireld or Harry McGuire from Leicester (England's center-back). Mourinho heard the fan reaction after Toby Alderweireld made major plays to stop the United forward line and he could begin to hear the chants of disaffection against Edward Woodward. That is why he went over to applaud them, not only to win them over but to double-down on the decision by Ed Woodward to deny Mourinho the trade Spurs wanted. Now United have a disaffected French star in Anthony Martial and no fix for their center-back position. Spurs did want $75 million or player exchange involving Anthony Martial but Edward Woodward's ego got in the way, for the simple reason he did not want to be seen being out-negotiated by Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman who has a reputation for being too difficult to negotiate with. Alderwerield would have connected the backbone of that United team. It is Ed Woodward who blocked that move. That was the major back-story being played out on Monday night. Football is a team game but having all the right cogs in place makes a huge difference. United ignored this cog and on Monday the fans saw it. https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/woodward-slated-alderweireld-masterclass/ http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/28/tottenham-hotspur-fans-react-on-twitter-to-toby-alderweirelds-pe/

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