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Buzz Submitted by : Mamen Delgado

Buzz: Entrevista beBee a José Ramón López

Link above is an Interview in Spanish by Mamen Delgado and the title means
BeBee interview with José Ramón López: "Publishing in beBee gives a lot of visibility"

After reading the interview linked above, the initial motto it inspired was "death takes time, life takes flow" but the idea of "takes" was a minus, so I have updated this emerging motto to "death needs time - life needs flow".

The whole interview was a life in flow and translated very well.  Mamen has put together some really good interviews lately for two good reasons - first she has a talent for picking great subjects to interview and secondly her style does illicit a very personal conversation - which provides good cameo's of the individual being interviewed, it is like she knows just the right question to ask and the whole process seems effortless - yet the end result is very insightful.

Being that it is just a few hours to Christmas Day comments juxtaposition with greetings, but this interview came ready made with lights that did not require any additional decoration.  It is Mamen who actually reminded me that it was Christmas with her greetings, for I was busy following up sections of the Interview and finding out more about references mentioned.

This when the motto came to me, which now has morphed into the title of this Paradox Wisdom. It occurred to me how arbitrary a year is in terms of planets.  What we celebrate at the end of the year is one complete circling of the Sun.  Yet if Earth had been the fourth planet in our solar system, our year would be 687 days as we know them and not the 366 days we had this leap year.  Even the rotation of Mars provides an extra 40 minutes for a Martian Day.

Instead I thought about what Christmas was a celebration of - which is new beginnings and new birth - yet we look at these times as our year-end holidays, even though the amount of work Christmas takes to put together in some households can hardly be considered a holiday!

The whole festive spirit thing is an exercise in managing credit cards and making sure that one has not left people out, while it is a time of giving, it is even more a time of commercial excess. 

The best time to end a year is actually Halloween - a ghoulish celebration if ever there was one, because at least in my household, it is November when the Christmas season really begins, and it seems to get earlier and earlier in November each year.  So why not make November the prelude to a new beginning or at least make it the closing month.

I only think this way because there has always been a rebellious spirit within me, which over time I have tried to tame, realizing that it is a spirit which simply eats away time, and no wonder I initially wrote "death takes time". 

The person Mamen was interviewing has a blog that I was totally unaware of and that blog content is on beBee

José Ramón López

Even though it is all in Spanish and I do not speak Spanish, just the use of images tells me that not only is well crafted but it speaks to a life in flow - or in other words "Life Needs Flow".

The act of appreciation is more powerful than the act of following - so as I read through the interview there was new threads appearing of people I would never have heard of before - and I am one who has made Google my abundance buddy - because I believe that the chief blessing of our age is the abundance of information and not scarcity of content - so flow and not time is the chief currency of my personal intelligence.

Though I have not determined why Jose has an apparent interest in the health of senior citizens, that part of his blog entries did catch my eye, though I have only skimmed the main page and not dug into individual buzzes.   With Mamen's interviews, she is also a good writer and I see a relationship with the quality of what Google translates, to the quality of a written blog.  So far I have been very pleased with the clarity of translations - but I have no idea how well my own words translate if a Spanish or Portuguese Bee is translating my words into their language.

What matters coming out reading Mamen's interview was that "Life takes flow" or as it written now "Life Needs Flow" - and where best to discover that, than to look for people who are in flow and flow with them.  No wonder people complain that social media is taking up their time, for they are simply following and following takes away time i.e. needs time.  So I do not follow, I flow and flow is best not an act of following - but a movement of observation and reflection.

Following makes sense to me if one is simply trying to build knowledge and accumulating knowledge may be useful for work applications, but it is also time consumption rather than flow nutrition.   If life needs flow, then where is the eventual flow moving towards?

Here home and family are my chief center and that is what drew me into this interview also, that our own persona inner circle is a circle of love - just as the sun is a circle of energy.  Other families are simply other stars in a human constellation that is a universal village.  Like me José Ramón is a family man but I do not get into flow with similarities but the uniqueness in the similarity.  Just because we have thumbs and fingers does not mean that we possess the same fingerprint.  That is what I like about great interviews - I begin to see a picture emerge of that.

Whether it is the footprint of our life, or the blueprint of work or the fingerprint of our home, my life needs flow.  Flow is not the same thing as time because here flow is a timeless quality.  Life Needs Flow.

PS A touch of synchronicity follows because I came across this at LinkedIn as a great example of "Death Needs Time" so I offer this as a part of my own on-going learning journey here at beBee and not simply because I am scoffing at the dark reality of time or because I have anything resembling a warped sense of humour :

f7b9f9b7.jpgSource: https://twitter.com/bencasnocha/status/812356930140192770

BTW: "Not an Einstein Quote"!!! http://fightland.vice.com/blog/back-to-the-future-lyoto-machida-and-einsteins-three-rules-of-time

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CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #14

Snopes asked if this was the deadliest year for celebrity deaths and found that the count for the year was not unusually high. In a society which brings celebrities into our home and as a part of our daily discourse - this is a great example of "death needs time" - and then we are transfixed by something which is a natural anomaly. As more and more celebrities pass away in coming years, will we get numb to the sheer scale of such news? If the 60's introduced us to this culture of fame, will the coming years return us to recognizing that we adding to the scale of grief, rather than appreciating what is natural about life and its path? Was 2016 the Deadliest Year for Celebrity Deaths? - SNOPES http://www.snopes.com/2016/12/28/2016-the-deadliest-year-for-celebrities/

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #13

Snopes asked if this was the deadliest year for celebrity deaths and found that the count for the year was not unusually high. In a society which brings celebrities into our home and as a part of our daily discourse - this is a great example of "death needs time" - and then we are transfixed by something which is a natural anomaly. As more and more celebrities pass away in coming years, will we get numb to the sheer scale of such news? If the 60's introduced us to this culture of fame, will the coming years return us to recognizing that we adding to the scale of grief, rather than appreciating what is natural about life and its path?

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #12

#30
Time and distance are human measures, time and distance are irrelevant to the universe in its choice for life, but relevant in creating the very narrow criteria that enables life to exist where it does. We will have a smarter perspective of this in 400 years time, until then we make do with the 21st Century as a pivotal point between time bunched together as people living in different centuries, unprepared and not in flow with the transformations we are experiencing right now.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #11

5 References on how one can distinguish : 1. 25 Ways to Distinguish Your Self by Rajesh Setty http://changethis.com/manifesto/17.25WaystoDistinguish/pdf/17.25WaystoDistinguish.pdf 2. Distinguish Science and Pseudoscience https://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pseudo.html 3. Distinguish Between Wants and Needs https://www.thebalance.com/wants-vs-needs-1388544 4. Distinguish Between a Sincere Person & A Hypocrite https://brightside.me/inspiration-psychology/8-signs-that-can-help-you-distinguish-a-sincere-person-from-a-hypocrite-278860/ 5. Distinguish Yourself from Your Competition http://www.fripp.com/selling-value-how-to-distinguish-yourself-from-the-competition/

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #10

#26
Conversations are plentiful and abundant on social media - sharing is astronomic. Reflection is the road less traveled. We do in weddings what we do not do in social media, which is a wedding is when we decide what our capacity is, but in social media there are no limits, some people accumulate 5000 followers, other 50,000. All of which is broadcast media. Less is more as far as following is concerned when following is confused with flow. We end up spinning our wheels. At this point I look at my watch and I am back in the field of time. This is where Aurosama's post is quite poignant Killing Time Around Christmas by Aurorasa Sima https://www.bebee.com/producer/@aurorasa/killing-time-around-christmas Social media can be such a random universe. A friend of mine once said "Twitter is stupid". I asked why He retorted "It is full of brain farts". I thought about it and then googled "brain farts" and then you find something like this : 10 Everyday Things That Cause Brain Farts http://www.livescience.com/33841-10-everyday-brain-farts.html This is not sharing, it is personal exploration. What is not relevant - move on. What is interesting - explore and move on. If by the end of the day it became merely an exercise in killing time, it is time to read Aurorasa's post again - because she is cool.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #9

#23
Dear Amina [ Amina Alami ] this is why counting our blessings is so profound. My parents experienced unbelievably harsh hardship of life but in their hardship they had a vision for us, their children. It is that vision that kept them battling through those hardships and brought meaning to their struggle. Now as their children, we are the realization of their vision - but then if we paid no honour or thought to that sacrifice then we do not know the seeds we sow for ourselves should hardship then revisit us. That is why I honour books written about hardship and struggle such as The Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela. The question I ask is if someone has struggled and sacrificed to provide us a moment of paradise - what prompts us to squander that paradise and thus not build on the shoulders of the great - but start the struggle all over again because we could not see the meaning of it. The one guilt that I don't want to feel is to take what my parents thought as meaningful and render it meaningless. I am conscious of how quickly we can remove the wheels of our paradise in a society that provided us means of movement towards a freedom that people decided was worth sacrificing for. If we have a modicum of freedom in our hands we should treasure it - for once it is lost, we either surrender as slaves, or fight for the very bits of freedoms which we may want to restore. This blessing gives me the luxury to explore and live my life but it is always in context of those who contribute to the life we have. Sometimes the hardships of life are unavoidable like the onset of tragedy but by have meaning it changes what we focus on.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #8

#20
Dear Devesh these are excellent questions and they are your questions because they are a part of your flow. How I utilize these questions assumes I know the answer to them, which I do not. The references that I link here are what I am looking at in the moment and as I go through those links, I log them and in that log there is a pattern that develops - and that finger print is my learning journey. I do not need to formulate an answer in the moment because we live in a world abundant with information. People on the web have lots of answers to each question and your question - are delusional people unauthentic - immediately prompts a question in my head that I then I go off an follow, which is Are we living in a delusional society Are We Living in a Delusional Society by Jean Pollack https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/creativity-way-life/201107/are-we-living-in-delusional-society In that piece Jean Pollack asks even more questions - but the bit that caught my eye was when she said "Delusions are false judgments held with extraordinary conviction and subjective certainty, resistant to contrary experience and counter-argument, whose content is impossible-or at least not verifiable." I do absolutely agree that too many references leads you to many places where we spread ourselves too thin, but also too many questions lead us to juggle to many options and I know that point because my own inner biology tells me that - and it is not felt in the mind but first felt in the gut. What puts in flow may put others out of flow, and what puts others in flow may put me out of flow - my learning journey is about learning and in that learning journey so I am not trying to experience flow in totality because that will just blow my mind. And NO you are not delusional - and you do demonstrate spontaneity.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #7

#15
Dear Dean when we think about the many perfections that make life possible, it is extraordinary to think people still believe that the formation of life is just an accident. We learn not just from the very narrow criteria that makes life on Earth possible, but the functioning of other planets such as Jupiter, which ensure that this gas planet takes wallops of asteroids that would otherwise end our Earthly existence. A bucket list is a good example where "Life needs Flow". In terms of death in the last 24 hours in Britain, George Michael is the big story. The more we are gravitated towards "Death needs Time" the more deeper and attached we become with that single news story. When we are in flow we are not interrupted by news nor are we making news and that is what makes a bucket list special, it is an expression of optimal experience and not optimal branding a.k.a. we live it more than conceptualize the idea of having a list.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #6

Dear Devesh You have already encountered the extraordinary flow of Ali Anani which is perhaps the best example of a mind that exemplifies optimal experience. Just as interesting is the life experiences of Dean Owen - whose optimal experience is found in his travel accounts. The flow I mention here is evidence based and one of the great academicians of our time Mihaly Cziksentimayhli who studied it extensively with reputable research pedigree. As for Gert Scholtz asking about time and timeless, it is Mihaly's work that drew out the connection between flow and its timeless quality - that when we are in flow, we forget time. Mihaly does point out that the timeless quality of flow can harm a human being. We are always in flow in relationship to time but in time there is danger, damage and death, but time is brought back into positive relationship in the work of Sara Jacobovici who views time as a sense. So in the timeless effect of being in flow does not mean we abandon the reality of time - for sooner or later, the back slap of reality shocks us back to time, even if we are awaken to flow as an optimal experience in that sweetspot between time challenge and time capability.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #5

#13
Dear Devesh [ Devesh Bhatt ] You have already encountered the extraordinary flow of Ali Anani which is perhaps the best example of a mind that exemplifies optimal experience. Just as interesting is the life experiences of Dean Owen - whose optimal experience is found in his travel accounts. The flow I mention here is evidence based and one of the great academicians of our time Mihaly Cziksentimayhli who studied it extensively with reputable research pedigree. As for Gert Scholtz asking about time and timeless, it is Mihaly's work that drew out the connection between flow and its timeless quality - that when we are in flow, we forget time. Mihaly does point out that the timeless quality of flow can harm a human being. We are always in flow in relationship to time but in time there is danger, damage and death, but time is brought back into positive relationship in the work of Sara Jacobovici who views time as a sense. So in the timeless effect of being in flow does not mean we abandon the reality of time - for sooner or later, the back slap of reality shocks us back to time, even if we are awaken to flow as an optimal experience in that sweetspot between time challenge and time capability.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #4

#8
Devesh we are society right here, we are not exclusionary to society - so the question for me is what can I learn from this gathering of society. The person who is most different to me in the small gathering here is and in his case, learning about what a Shaman is, is like fine wine, I will know over time and not immediately. I can read about Shamanism http://www.sandraingerman.com/abstractonshamanism.html but the Shaman called Max Carter is not the UN representative here for Shamanism, he is a Shaman who is a part of our society. The greatest learning I receive is from people who are different from me but spread through the diversity of all the people we will come across. That to me what my flow is, whereas Max Carter is connected to a flow that goes back to ancient ancestors. The saddest death of all where I live is seeing how much culture and knowledge has been stripped from the indigenous people of North America - but no matter how much is stripped, the ancestors that passed their knowledge is alive through others, just as our flow passes through to future generations - that is if we pass on life onto them, or it might be something dead which ends that branch of the tree, maybe even float away as a dead log in a river. That is why the tree of life metaphor is just as brilliant as the river of life metaphor - but I don't find flow in dead things, but living things - it is we make this tree alive, it is we who make this river flow - if we are connected to it as a vital life force.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #3

#5
The river of life has always been one of the great spiritual metaphors. http://wildernessdave.com/life-as-a-river-what-we-can-learn-from-river-running/ so now I ask myself how to swim with metaphor so that I am not the river but that action which is flow? Not driftwood but that river of life.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #2

#7
You have articulated the value of reflection. In the world of the famous 2016 has seen the loss of many names we have grown up watching. The year started with the passing of David Bowie and it seems death will time stamp the year with the passing of George Michael. We sometimes say we grew up with these people, but that is not correct - we grew up with their images. The value of reflection is that we who are not an image but in the here and now, life needs flow - for sure we can observe the moments that are time stamped into us, as a famous death often does - but we continue on our life journey's - hopefully focused on life's flow. When Max Carter said "pick your death and live accordingly" we take death out of the hands of time and put life in the hands of the timeless quality of flow - for then where depression might have been, is substituted an appreciation for the totality of life.

CityVP Manjit

7 years ago #1

#2
I am pretty open minded to something we have no idea about a.k.a. what death is, other than most societies live in fear of it, while there are some tribal cultures who celebrate the life of who has passed on - which makes a lot more sense to me considering the one thing that is certain in a life where many of us cling to certainties. Then there is transhumanism and Zoltan who actually wrote an article in Wired called : Forget Trump, Zoltan Istvan wants to be the 'anti-death' president http://www.wired.co.uk/article/the-transhumanist-age The Transhumanist does not fear death, they loath it and want to use science to explore life-extension technologies and means. Economic and technological advances have doubled the life-expectancy - so if our principal focus is death then that is our choice. My principle focus is life. That it is uncertain how much of it we actually have, as well as the actual quality of it, that kind of uncertainty can wisely be embraced. The irony of our society is that we have a far bigger relationship with death than we do with life, some societies like the Jews and Sikhs depict atrocities against them either as holidays or as murals in their temples. Christians lead with the crucifix and Islam means peace but that is not one would think about when we watch the media. And of course there are TED-Talks - http://www.ted.com/talks/kelli_swazey_life_that_doesn_t_end_with_death I am pretty cool with "Choose Life" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W89cZHJ9q1w instead of the heroin.

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