Jim Murray

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Why The Comment “Great Post” Is The Last Thing Any Op/Ed Blogger Wants To See.

Why The Comment “Great Post” Is The Last Thing Any Op/Ed Blogger Wants To See.

This is part 3 of my now established series on op/ed blogging. Who knows how long this will last. Not me.

Opl Ed Bloggers Survival

And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you hear, my darling young one?
I heard the sound of a thunder that roared out a warnin'
I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin'
I heard ten thousand whisperin' and nobody listenin'
I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin'
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall
Dylan

When I was a young warthog, in grade 13 at David & Mary Thomson Collegiate in Scarborough, I wrote what turned out to be my first marketing piece. The client, oddly enough, was me.
The piece in question was a history essay on the French Revolution. In this essay, I drew comparisons between the French Revolution and the counter-cultural revolution that was going on here in North America. It was a lot of fun and I got to use some Dylan quotes, like the one above, which have been part of my writing for many years.
After I got back my A on the paper, my history teacher took me aside and told me she thought that this was a brilliant piece of writing. And that she knew people in their junior and senior years of university that could not write at this level.

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She also told me that she had forwarded my essay to the dean of Glendon College, which was a fairly new Liberal arts oriented extension of York University.
Three weeks later the Dean, Dean Reid, called me and invited me to Glendon for lunch. He gave me the nickel tour and explained to me that they were prepared to offer me a full-tuition scholarship.
I was kind of shocked that he would do such a thing based on one essay. He told me that the world he saw barreling down the turnpike was one that needed writers who could actually think, who had a point of view, and who could express it in simple but powerful language.
I guess he meant me.

The Long & Winding Road
Lennon/McCartney

Many years and millions of words, poems, lyrics, short stories, screenplays, a novel and close to 1000 articles later, I feel I am finally starting to get the hang of it. Most of the good writers I know, and there are not really all that many, feel the same way.
Their work is constantly a work in progress. But they have reached a level with their writing and understand enough about their craft to know that there’s always room for improvement.

The More Challenging The Comment The Better

In the op/ed blogging world, which is where I spend a lot of my time, the objective of writing is a little different. What you are trying to do, for the most part, is state your point of view and challenge others to poke holes in it or add some perspective to it or share experiences that they have had in the same vein.
This is how op/ed bloggers learn. I’m flattered when someone tells me I have written what they consider to be a great post. But the little buzz you get from that is all you get.
When I was blogging over in the Lumpy Kingdom, they actually had for a time, some sort of auto-responder that generated a “Great Post” comment.
All this represented to me and a few other people I know, was ample evidence of just how much they missed to the point of having a publishing platform in the first place.
And that probably explains why it’s shriveling up like a prune now.
Op/ed blogs are, when they work, conversation starters. They could be about something that pisses you off to get to going, or they could be about something that strikes a nerve or conjures up a memory or even tempts you to tell the writer he’s full of shit.
And these are all good things because writers learn from them. And that adds knowledge to their memory bank and they use it as they go along.
So if you are tempted to just write ‘great post’ as a comment here, take a breath and then tell me what you really want to say about it.
Because ‘great post’ is the given that has gotten you right to the end of this post…which is here.
Have a great Sunday. As usual, likes, shares & comments are always appreciated.

Other Posts In This Series Include:

https://www.bebee.com/producer/@jim-murray/trolls-just-like-cockroaches-but-much-easier-to-control

https://www.bebee.com/producer/@jim-murray/the-op-ed-blogger-s-survival-guide-to-bebee

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John Rylance

7 years ago #28

Claire rather than " thank you " perhaps one or two word comments should evoke the response "Why?" Surely the whole idea of all this is to start and continue meaningful dialogue. Any further views on this?#38

Jim Murray

7 years ago #27

#45
I left the Dark Side partially because of that sort of crap. It made me feel they were missing the point.

Phil Friedman

7 years ago #26

#42
wow, Richard Buse, I bet you still read print publications, as well. Let's you, Jim and I have a real argument sometime in the not too distant future. Should be fun. Cheers!

Phil Friedman

7 years ago #25

#38
Claire, how about "Great post about improving your approach to blogging..."? Or something like that, which shows that the commenter at least read the title? :-)

Phil Friedman

7 years ago #24

#36
well, Tony, truth be told, I get Jim to ghost all my stuff --- at least the pieces that piss off a lot of people. :-) Seriously, you could do a lot worse than use Jim as a blogging guide, because he has mastered the art of perking reader interest, while getting people to love him. Well, most people, anyway.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #23

#35
Thanks Tony Rossi. The reason I do this is mainly because I want everybody to get better at writing, or failing that, hire me to help them. LOL.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #22

#30
I like that...This post is buzzing. John Rylance

John Rylance

7 years ago #21

"Great post" can be viewed as damming with faint praise ( average, mediocre) Mind you finding an alternative is fraught with difficulties. Here are a few to precede post. Superdoopah, amazing, mind-blowing, tantalising, and many others all needing clarification. The crux is clarity of view/comment. One final thought perhaps a current short comment would be "This post is buzzing" That would set people thinking, it's more active than the "bumbling" Great Post"

Jim Murray

7 years ago #20

#25
Thanks Irene Hackett

Jim Murray

7 years ago #19

#26
A lot of people did Paul Walters. And I am grateful beyond words.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #18

#24
Thanks Tony Rossi. I believe that people cut each other a good deal of slack. Because the majority of contribitors here and on LinkedIn, when it was worthwhile posting there, were non writers. But so were all the professional writers at one time. For non writer the comments they get are very important to them, because it gives them fresh perspectives on their work and that's the main think that helps them improve. I give out a lot of advice on writing here, because I want more good writers in the world. Period.

Paul Walters

7 years ago #17

Jim Murray Great post....there I said it!!!!

Jim Murray

7 years ago #16

#8
Javier beBee. I love your sense of humour, sir.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #15

#21
Thanks Pam...this post was more of a primer for some of the people who are new to blogging that it was any sort of critique on commenting. I write a lot of posts where I don't get many comments at all and I'm fine with that.

Milos Djukic

7 years ago #14

For many, this is just a game, a loneliness or a desire to socialize. "Great post" does not have to be just a sign of superficiality. Yet too many "Great post" might mean that an article is boring.

Wayne Yoshida

7 years ago #13

Thanks Jim. I love your lunch story! Boinking the Relevant button. As writers, I think writing stuff to get some engagement, reaction, like, dislike or -- conversation -- going is one of the best ways to see how people appreciate your stuff. Transmitting one-way is - boring and without feedback. Keep writing, your stuff always makes me smile, laugh, wince, or think.

Milos Djukic

7 years ago #12

Hm Great post... Jim Murray, My experience suggests that the effects of tactful critiques are often highly undervalued. I think that criticism is useful for everyone, but social media criticism modeling, that will have fruitful effects (stretch and grow), is a special kind of art. There are some wonderful people here, who are not prepared to "survive" battles without serious consequences. We must be careful.

David B. Grinberg

7 years ago #11

I always enjoy and learn from reading your "sweet honey, Jim Murray. Moreover, as a writer/blogger, I can certainly relate to your points -- especially about writing/blogging being a "work in progress." Yes, we writer always strive for perfection in our minds, however, ultimately you have to hit the "publish" button. Also, while I appreciate when someone comments "great post" (which I think is better than no comment at all), I always digress and respond to the effect of: "I don't know about 'great' but I'll settle for good." Great makes me think of Hemingway and other famous writers who have left their mark on society well after their death. That's certainly something writer aspire for, that is, to leave something of value behind.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #10

#10
Flattery will get you everywhere, amigo.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #9

#10
Phil Friedman...Flatgtery will get you everywhere, amigo.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #8

#9
Mary Pollock...So glad to hear it. You guys have been working so hard. I will do a couple of post in the Interior Design hives here. This I can't spend all my time packing.

Phil Friedman

7 years ago #7

If Will Rogers mind-melded with Mark Twain, and wrote an Everyman's Guide to Op/ED Blogging, it would probably be quite a bit like yours. Makes me almost believe in channeling. Cheers!
Jim Murray ...I couldn't resist !! GREAT BUZZ !!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Jim Murray

7 years ago #5

#5
Thanks Mary Pollock Hope you guys are starting to post here. It's growing like a weed in the US market.

Jim Murray

7 years ago #4

#2
Yeah, yeah. I know. I'm so got at this I'm starting to feel like Sheldon Cooper.

don kerr

7 years ago #3

Jim Murray's comment about the danger of echo chambers where we simply hear only our voices reflected back. You're getting really good at this Jim!

don kerr

7 years ago #2

Jim Murray Great post.

Neil Smith

7 years ago #1

In the world of science the concepts that stand the test of time are those which have been through the cleansing fire of unremitting challenge and have, so far, survived. Often in politics and culture many loud voices not only duck the challenge but decry the right of challengers to hold an opinion in the first place. This is where the echo chambers begin and where ideas go to die. We should all look for positive critical analysis. At the least it indicates that someone is actively considering our ideas. In the meantime Jim great post.

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