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The Internet Is Manufacturing Idiots…Is beBee The Antidote?

The Internet Is Manufacturing Idiots…Is beBee The Antidote?

beBeeThere are more words in the English language that are synonyms for ‘idiot’ than pretty much any other other word or term you can think of.
Moron. Buffoon. Clown. Doofus. Asshole. Bozo. Dipshit. Fool. Halfwit. Dunce. Cretin. Imbecile. Flake. Dough Head. Shit For Brains. Ass. Airhead. Blockhead. Dope. Dork. Lunkhead. Brain Dead. Airhead. Boob. Lamebrain. Meathead. Thick As A Brick. Dumber Than A Box Of Rocks. Not Playing With A Full Deck. Simpleton. Dunce. Dummy. Pinhead. Numbskull. Jerk. Nincompoop. Ninny. Ignoramus. Dumbbell. Dimwit. Dolt. A few Bricks Short Of A Load. To mention a few.
We have all come across these people in our lives and in social media. And for the most part we try and steer clear of them.
But they still keep popping up like so many bad pennies in your life. A lot of times, they just show up in the form of things you see or come across, especially on places like Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
I find these people fairly easy to avoid, but I carry the curse of having majored in philosophy. And even though the staggering number of idiots doesn’t necessarily affect me personally or physically, it really bothers me philosophically.
I am very uncomfortable around people who are stupid.

Back In The Day Idiots

Back when I worked in the ad agency business, we used to do a lot of research on products and the concepts we could come up with to sell them to people.

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This is one of those places where idiots would show up regularly. Not in great numbers. But even having one or two in a focus group of 10 or 12 people could really screw things up, because the people in the groups who were not idiots, would get upset, thinking that we were throwing them in with a couple of idiots, and that’s maybe what we thought of them.
Needless to say, that cost us a lot of extra work, because concepts that intelligent people would get with no problem, were turned on by this resentment, which, in its own way was a form of stupidity as well.
In one way I have been lucky, because my exposure to idiots in the pre-social media days was limited. Because you work so much in advertising, the friendships you form tend to be with people in your business. And generally speaking, people in advertising and marketing tend to be both bright and well-educated. At least they did back then.
But we all had stories, like my research stories and about neighbours who were complete morons etc.

Social Media Idiots

I joined Facebook back in the early days when the objective was to max out your ‘friends’ list, as that was seen as some sort of social media merit badge.
And since everybody was doing the same thing back then, I very soon maxed out and was left with literally hours of scrolling to do to get through the comings and goings of my 5000 ‘friends’.
This is where I started to develop the 80/20 Differential. Because as I was scrolling through I started to notice that there was a lot of stupid shit getting posted. Back then, it was the early days of the ‘jackass’ breed, and so a lot of the stuff that was posted had the do with idiots doing fairly stupid and actually kind of dangerous stuff.

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This is when I started to wonder if there wasn’t some conspiracy afoot to create a generation of social media idiots. As a marketer I could see the brilliance of that. Idiots are much easier to sell stuff to than non-idiots.
And I could see that if ‘free’ sites like Facebook were going to survive, they would have to monetize and if they had a lot of idiots they could sell to, they would do well.
As time went by, my frustration with the large number of idiots, political freaks, sad sacks, hustlers, scammers and trolls had grown to the point where I simply closed my account, waited a week and then opened a new one.
This new account now only has 115 ‘friends’, the vast majority of whom I know personally or am related to. As a result of having fewer friends there, I am spending a lot less time on it, and have extra time to devote to something I find much more gratifying.

beeBe…A Haven From The Idiot Onslaught

I joined beBee a little more than a year ago, as part of the initial wave of writers who showed up based on John White’s recommendation.
We all knew John from LinkedIn where we were all doing quite well on their Pulse publisher, until we weren’t. John assured us all that beBee was working hard to learn from the mistakes that Facebook and LinkedIn had made and structure their site accordingly.
Having gone through ‘idiot and management overkill’ on Facebook and LI respectively, I was a bit skeptical, but I figured what the hell. Here’s a chance to be part of the initial wave of English speaking writers coming to beBee. At the very least we would all have each other.

The beBee Revelation

c86b32e4.pngHaving negative experiences with certain things can actually enhance your appreciation of the positive experiences. And that is exactly what happened on beBee.
From the very outset, the users (aka bees) here, and the management of beBee all greeted us with open arms and a willingness to engage that I personally only experienced a few times on LinkedIn and hardly ever on Facebook.
But what was the most encouraging thing of all was the almost total absence of idiots. It was kind of like I had died and gone to social media heaven.

Nothing’s Perfect…But BeBee Is Not Too Shabby

I won’t tell you that my experience here as a user and then as a brand ambassador hasn’t been without a few bumps here and there. But what I can tell you is that the management of this site (also the owners) Javier Rica and Juan Imaz, are both very hands-on and easily the most active cheerleaders for beBee.
And the adage that the character of any business is shaped by the characters of the people who run it holds true here 100%.
Being a content contributor on this site has been both gratifying and interesting. The scarcity of idiots is strange on the surface, but not when you consider that the management is very hands-on and has moved swiftly to keep any ‘idiot’ issues from raging out of control.

Every Site Has Its Purpose

1efa2fba.pngSocial media, which is relatively young in marketing terms has divided itself into a number of silos. Each major site has its own primary function and brand character.
LinkedIn is morphing slowly back to its original form, which was as a job seeker/employee seeker repository. Facebook continues to be a ‘friends and friends-of-friends’ site with an ever increasing amount of sponsored posts. Instagram is for celebrities and other self-absorbed types of which there are millions. Twitter is for news (fake and other) and advertising. Pinterest is for pics. Etc.

But beBee Is Different From All Of The Above

05792d19.pngAs a user, beBee is about finding new audiences for my blogging. It’s about being able to explore different interests that I have by exploring posts in affinity-based hives. And it’s about finding interesting stuff to read and learn from in a relatively ‘idiot-free’ environment.
beBee also has the opportunity to grow into a more structured business site as it starts to attract more group activity from the frustrated group owners on LinkedIn.
beBee is also an excellent place to have as a blogging headquarters. Because not only are you able to reach all your followers with every post you create, you can reach out into any number of the special interest hives and post there, plus share your posts on LI, Twitter, Facebook and Google+ without all the hassle of having to do it the cut and paste way.
The Proof Is In The Pudding

The performance of my posts on beBee, makes my LinkedIn Pulse performance pale in comparison. I keep telling the writers who are still publishing on Pulse and wondering if their audience has died or something, that they are basically wasting their time there.
And one by one, the penny is dropping with these folks and good writers are showing up here all the time.

All I Can Go By Is My Own Experience

I have a year with beBee under my belt. I have developed some very solid friendships. I have an interested and interesting audience. I have support from management. And I have been able to develop several promotional streams for beBee that beBee’s management supports and encourages.
I am not just a user here. But I have become an organic part of this site. Maybe just a small part, but that’s OK, because it’s a hell of a lot better than any social media experience I have had in the last decade.
All comments, relevents and shares are welcome.

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Comments

Joel Anderson

6 years ago #37

Grit is that 'extra something' that separates the most successful people from the rest. It's the passion, perseverance, and stamina that we must channel in order to stick with our dreams until they become a reality. - Travis Bradberry

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #36

#48
#49 #50 Thank you, Milos, for your exceptionally clear elucidation of several important issues. I agree with you that one of the main social problems with "mainstream" social media is that it represents itself as being a free and open platform for the expression of ideas and the exchange of opinion, but in reality is manipulated behind the scenes to create influential "trends" that can be monetized. I have to admit that I am weary of the struggle against the illusion. And am working on completing the last piece I will likely ever publish on beBee about social media and beBee. "Busting Myths About View Counts... And Other Engagement Metrics". It's been a real effort not only to finish what is a very long article , but to resist completing it. And the struggle has just worn me out. Cheers!

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #35

#48
#49 #50 Thank you, Milos, for your exceptionally clear elucidation of several important issues. I agree with you that one of the main social problems with "mainstream" social media is that it represents itself as being a free and open platform for the expression of ideas and the exchange of opinion, but in reality is manipulated behind the scenes th create influential "trends" that can be monetized. I have to admit that I am weary of the struggle against the illusion. And am working on completing the last piece I will likely ever publish on beBee about social media and beBee. "Busting Myths About View Counts... And Other Engagement Metrics". It's been a real effort not only to finish what is a very long article , but to resist completing it. And the struggle has just worn me out. Cheers!

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #34

#43
And that's one of the reasons why I wrote "Writing and Editorial Board in Social Networks". This is an article about the mainstream SM and networks, which has a broader meaning.

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #33

#43
For example (see #43), some of the mainstream SM seeks to reassure users that education in academic institutions is a waste of time and money and that anyone can educate himself through courses, but payment of online courses is supposedly a wise investment. This idea is supported through a very subtle marketing that is carefully designed through selection of content and promotion of selected contents and people.

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #32

#43
Phil, my friend, mainstream is being what society thinks you should be and look like. This is one of the definitions. The most popular social media known as the mainstream media are responsible for what is called a mediated culture by sociologists or a content based on what majority wants to see and hear. However, this is often an illusion because there are imposition of favored content, authors and sources that are carefully selected and which are used for the transformation and reshaping of public opinion. This is also the reason for a lack of authenticity and self-organization on mainstream media, that is not characteristic for a young social media, such as beBee. Probably, this is the reason why a title of this article is "The Internet Is Manufacturing Idiots…Is beBee The Antidote?" Yes it is, believe it or not. The Internet is an idiot, but we are not. Currently, Bebe is a favorable place for the establishment of networks of excellence in selected professional branches, with the obligatory respect of a social aspect. Just my two cents.

Jim Murray

6 years ago #31

#41
Simone Luise Hardt Connection done. I agree with you Simone, that we are in charge. I leave all my social media sites open, which really emulates the activity of the average person, so that I can see just what is happening to them, because that way I can write about it credibly.

Jim Murray

6 years ago #30

#41
Connection done. I agree with you Simone, that we are in charge. I leave all my social media sites open, which really emulates the activity of the average person, so that I can see just what is happening to them, because that way I can write about it credibly.

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #29

#42
Chas, Trump is assembling a bid to acquire Twitter so that he can officially become the Head Twit. :-)

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #28

#35
Milos, I'd be very interested to know how you define the "mainstream of social media". Also whether you would consider a beBee hive a potential anchor point for an NoE. Thanks and cheers, my friend.

Louise Smith

6 years ago #27

Because of Facebook idiocies and all the clients who come to me to resolve resulting self esteem & bullying issues, I was never interested in social media at all. I started on LI and fortunately found some serious souls (who also make jokes) and then naturally followed to beBee. I was annoyed with LI because I didn't get quite a lot of great posts from those I respected & followed. This still happens. BUT beBee is a breath of fresh air which is honey scented! Ironically some people I follow on beBee, I read on LI but never followed or had them as followers until now. Every platform has different and as Phil Friedman stated below #23 "it is necessary to prioritize based on one's primary goals and objectives" when choosing what to participate on and how to get it to work for you.

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #26

#34
Paul, that is good to hear. It would be interesting to understand the cause(s) of the variance between your experience vs mine. It may be a clue that I've developed more than 3,500 followers on LI, most of whom are my colleagues in the Marine Industry.. cheers!

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #25

"Networks of Excellence" can be from any area of human knowledge and skills, and with a clear mission goals. Only then it is beneficial for all participants, and not only for the coordinator, who is then only a moderator, facilitator and inciter. This is my vision of a successful engagement in SM.

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #24

Each of us need to to build at least one "Networks of Excellence" NoE. My "Network of Excellence (NoE) in Hydrogen Embrittlement" aims to strengthen scientific and technological excellence by developing an integrated and interdisciplinary scientific understanding of hydrogen degradation of engineering materials and their co-evolution with science, materials science, industry and society, and also by addressing the fragmentation of European and Worldwide research in this area. Its main objective is to enable an open and productive dialogue between all disciplines which study hydrogen embrittlement phenomena from any scientific or technological perspective and which in turn are being transformed by continuous advances in materials science and technology. I strongly believe in the spirit of open collaboration. For now, this network of excellence has branches on LinkedIn, WorldPress,Twitter, beBee, Medium, Mendeley, ResearchGate, AcademiaEdu, CiteULike and Loop-Frontiers

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #23

#34
So Paul Walters, everything is relative. I am glad to hear that. My main professional and business activities are outside of the mainstream SM. Despite this fact, my active and joint presence in numerous streets of an idiotic town called internet carries with it tremendous benefits both personally and professionally. And not just for me.

Paul Walters

6 years ago #22

#23
Phil Friedman Since I started on beBEE my book sales have increased 20% ( and I dont even push them!) I have also been commissioned by no less than six airlines to wirte for their in flight journals so I guess ( unintentionallyl) beBEE is somehow working for me, far more than Linked in ever did

Paul Walters

6 years ago #21

#30
Milos Djukic well said !!!

Paul Walters

6 years ago #20

Jim Murray I've said it once but I'll say it again, BRAVO !!!

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #19

Currently, beBee is the only social network that works in accordance with the principles of emergence, interdependence, diversity, modes of interaction, and self-organization which are typical for complex adaptive systems, such as social networks .

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #18

Thanks Jim Murray, It seems to me that people do not understand the power of social media. They do not serve only in order to earn money online & offline. SM are excellent tools for making and maintaining international connections. For a true connection, you still need to meet face-to-face. Scientists are passionate about their research. Social media is a playground for adults and for different professionals who want to make progress in his career and business, through contacts with people from different areas of interests. Social media interactions are based on the knowledge and ignorance exchange with others. Discussion is an exchange of both knowledge and ignorance, simultaneously. A critical discussion is the fight against ignorance. Social media are also social framework. Through contacts with other people, from other cultures, we are gaining new skills. The numbers are not all that's left, still has a lot more to being a human. What makes us unique is not only our professional successes, social media itself or other trivia. The Internet is an idiot, but we are not. "Helping others help themselves", it is less a paradox and is increasingly becoming the golden rule of social media.

Wayne Yoshida

6 years ago #17

Thanks Jim Murray and others, the Internet doesn't manufacture idiots, they just become visible at the speed of light. Or your Internet connection. In any case, I come here for entertainment, and to create/contribute/write/post stuff because it is fun, and I like the comments and discussions that take place here. It is sort of like the topics I create: I am a career and LinkedIn coach as a volunteer, and I do it because I am giving back to the programs that helped me in some difficult times. I share these thoughts both here and LI, hoping this will help others, or at least, start a discussion on these topics.

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #16

#26
That's true, Jim Murray, Rome was not built in a day. Although if memory still serves correctly, it only took a day to burn it down. :-) Just kidding, I think the history written at the time said the fire raged for six days and seven nights.

Jim Murray

6 years ago #15

#23
I agree, Phil Friedman. This is a great place if you want to just build an audience, that may or may not lead you to business connections offline (where all this stuff actually happens). All we can do is keep dropping hints that this might be a good direction for them to focus on. Especially since it would not take much to get a group system similar to LI up and running here. I have always believed that is where the big volume growth potential lies. And who know...this site's only two years and a bit old. Rome was not built in a day.

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #14

#22
Praveen, I do not question that one can extend both respect and a civil demeanor simultaneously. My only point is that civility of demeanor is not ipso facto respectful. And that, indeed, sometimes civil demeanor camouflages a lack of respect for the recipient. Students often find that those teachers who are the hardest on them are actually the people who respect and care about them the most, while the back-patters and oh-good-job-sayers have little true regard for them or their long-term welfare. I have learned, for example, that on social media there is a lot of what is called "social following" -- I follow you, so that you will reciprocate by following me. I may be looking to build a following, and may not actually give a damn about reading anything that you write. That is, I think, what Jim was talking about when he referenced the early days of Facebook networking. In the same way, I believe, a lot of "civil" comment, especially on LinkedIn and beBee, is "social" and should not be confused with respect. Cheers!

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #13

Jim, I think one's attitudes toward various social media platforms depend on one's goals in being on social media. Some are SM to see and be seen and often these days to live in the eyes of others (a landscape of selfies). Others are writers or bloggers seeking access to an audience. Still others are seeking to promote their offline businesses and the goods and services they offer. While some seek to do business online (the Life and Career Coaches, the Resume writers and consultants, the Recruiters, not to mention the purveyors of usurious Internet loans, as well as various scammers and con artists). And then there are those who make a business on social media of being on social media (the "experts" who will, for a fee, coach you in how to be "successful" on LinkedIn, beBee, Facebook, Twitter, or the myriad of other social media platforms). Continued... Pt II

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #12

Jim - Pt. II... You are a writer and a blogger (I am not exactly sure what defines the difference) seeking to find and build your audience (readership) and so, find beBee best suited to your needs. At the risk of being told to go f&%# myself, a lot of my activity on social media is aimed at generating contacts for my offline business and, therefore, I am moved to continue a strong presence on LinkedIn, where I've generated almost all of the leads that have been converted to significant consulting and paid writing gigs. And lately, with the ongoing development of Facebook for Business, I've been looking at expanding and rationalizing my presence there as well. As a writer, I enjoy and like beBee. But as a business person, I know several beBee users who have left the platform because, like me, they believe beBee has not to date developed anything even approaching a robust business-oriented sub-group of users. And as at least one business person said to me, there appear to be business people on beBee, but they are all sellers, and there does not appear to be many, if any buyers. Not saying that is true, only that it is the strong impression a number of people expressed to me. The problem is, of course, that one cannot be on all of the social media platforms. So it is necessary to prioritize based on one's primary goals and objectives. Cheers!

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #11

#18
Präveen, with all due respect, politeness is not the same as respect. Often it is more respectful to challenge someone about their ideas or opinions precisely because to do so is based on believing they are worthy of engagement. By the same token, to treat someone with a high level of politeness, which at the same time masks contempt for their intellect, is NOT respect. As to giving "respect" in order to gain "respect", I don't think it works that way. One earns respect from others. It is not a matter of social barter. My respect for your thought and intellect is based on what you say, not on any politeness that you show or do not show to me. Cheers!

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #10

#18
Prävention, with all due respect, politeness is not the same as respect. Often it is more respectful to challenge someone about their ideas or opinions precisely because to do so is based on believing they are worthy of engagement. By the same token, to treat someone with a high level of politeness, which at the same time masks contempt for their intellect, is NOT respect. As to giving "respect" in order to gain "respect", I don't think it works that way. One earns respect from others. It is not a matter of social barter. My respect for your thought and intellect is based on what you say, not on any politeness that you show or do not show to me. Cheers!

Jim Murray

6 years ago #9

#11
Excellent Point Michael O'Neil " The not idiots frequenting beBee can help manage down the influence and impact of the toxic idiot."

Phil Friedman

6 years ago #8

Jim, one of the factors contributing to the growth of Idiocy on the Internet is the growing tendency to confuse "respect" with refraining from disagreement and criticism , irrespective of how civilly expressed. In other words, the growing belief that the only legitimate response to posts and comments is a litany of "good point, brilliant share, great post" and so on. By capitulating to the Selfie Movement with our silence, we encourage the burgeoning of Idiocy, as surely as BS accelerates the growth of mushrooms. Cheers! #1

don kerr

6 years ago #7

Jim Murray You just keep getting better my friend. Full endorsement of your p.o.v. and will share.
As with your experience, Jim Murray, I've experienced a bump or two, but nothing serious. I enjoy meeting all those in my hives of interest, something that I can't do on other platforms. Very happy to spread the buzz about beBee!

Laurent Boscherini

6 years ago #5

Thank you Jim Murray for sharing your excellent prism. "I am not just a user here. But I have become an organic part of this site." Very wise and efficient strategy !

Pedro 🐝 Casanova

6 years ago #4

#2
How many people followed that campaign?. It s there a list?. I have a book named " All I know about women " that I would like them to buy. ( The book is completely empty of words...hence the gimmick )Book price is 50 $ + s/h...( sarcastic mode ON )

Milos Djukic

6 years ago #3

The Internet Is Idiot.

Jim Murray

6 years ago #2

Admittedly I was taking a little poetic license here in the headline. I realize that idiots have always been with us. But I also realize that beBee is an excellent counterpoint,
LOL, the internet is not manufacturing idiots. These species are everywhere! Probably too many. Paul \ What do you think LOL ? beBee will only help,,, supporting and encouraging respect on the platform !

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