Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

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Epic Fail: NCIS

Epic Fail: NCIS

NAVAL CRIMINA ESTIGATIVE SERVICELet me first say that I LOVE the show NCIS! It has a great cast, well-developed characters, and interesting plot lines. 

The writing is nearly perfect. 

This is exactly what you would expect from a show that is still going strong after 14 seasons at the top of the rankings!

Wow.  Fourteen seasons and counting is amazing for any show, let alone an hour-long drama. 

I came to be a fan late. I started watching NCIS at season 12. Thanks to streaming, I've been binge-watching from season one.

Everything was going great until I hit episode 14 of season 4. That's when the writing stumbled. 

No, it wasn't a stumble. The writing tripped, fell flat on its face, chipped a tooth, and broke its nose.

This post is a minor rant.

Episode 14 of season 4, "Blowback," introduces a new villain, "Le Grenouille." Le Grenouille is a French illicit arms dealer and the arch-nemesis of NCIS Director, Jenny Shepard played by Lauren Holly.

Forget the fact that Lauren Holly looks too young to be the director of a major federal agency. I have no issues with that. Besides, she's a lot easier on the eyes than the current director, Rocky Carroll

My issue is with Le Grenouille. It wouldn't be so bad if he was a one-shot character. No, he is a recurring character spread throughout the season. In fact, much of the season revolves around him.

'Le Grenouille" is played by a major actor, Armand Assante. Armand really should have told the writers about their major screw-up. 

Maybe he didn't know.

The errors just kept repeating themselves. I watched in morbid fascination. I figured that sooner or later someone would point out the screw-ups.

No one ever did, apparently.

Why this is an Epic Fail

1 - Let's start with the "Le" part of "Le Grenouille." French has noun-gender. "Grenouille" is feminine, therefore it should be "La Grenouille." The fact that the moniker refers to a man is irrelevant to the French language.

2 - The show explains how arms dealers give themselves code names. Le Grenouille gave himself a grammatically incorrect name? Not bloody likely.

It gets worse. . .

3 - In French, "grenouille" means "frog." No French arms dealer (or Quebecer for that matter) would use that name. Frog is a derogatory term for French speakers. 

It would be like a Spanish arms dealer calling himself the "Greaser Spic." Or, an Italian arms dealers calling himself the "Dago Wop." Or, a black arms dealer calling himself the "N..." (you get the point)

I can live with those errors. I'm used to the butchery of the French language and, worse, French-Quebecer culture in movies and television. 

The only accurate portrayal was on "Mad Men," when Megan Draper (Jessica Paré) kicked in a door with a thundering, "KAWWWLISSE!" That scene was probably written as, "Sacré blue." Ms.  Paré is a native Montrealer and likely set the record straight. 

No Quebecer would ever say, " Sacré blue." I doubt anyone would.

NCIS did not have the luxury of having Ms. Paré on hand.

NCIS' writers should have used Google Translate

Google translate has a pronunciation function. That would have stopped me from cringing every time the cast pronounced, "Le Grenouille."

Every character pronounced Le Grenouille as Le Grenn-WEE.

WTF is a grenn-wee?

I get the fact that some sounds are not found in some languages. 

French speakers have great difficulty with the "th" sound in English. The word "the" often comes out as "duh."

The "th" sound in French is like "t." Tea, the beverage, is thé but pronounced té. You know how to pronounce discotheque. 

Similarly, "ouille" is not found in the English language. It is not even remotely similar to "wee."

To correctly pronounce it, let's borrow from something everyone knows how to pronounce. 

We all know the Yiddish term, "Oy vey," and how to pronounce it.

Great.

Only use the "oy" part.

Replace the o sound with an oo sound as in, "Oo, baby, yes," or "Moo," the sound a cow makes if you prefer the PC version.

Now you have the correct pronunciation for Grenouille. It's sort of like grenn-ooy, not grenn-wee.

You can hear it for yourself at https://translate.google.ca/?hl=en&tab=wT#en/fr/frog

It's the little things that annoy.

Rant mode off.

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Jim Murray

8 years ago#9

#10
They were supposed to be done at the end of last season,. but they wrote in an extemsion at the last minute because the network didn;'t have anything for that very profitable time slot. Mark Harmon had already started running things on NCIS New Orleans, which I like a lot better. I have no interest int he LA version, it's kinda dopey.

Paul Walters

8 years ago#8

Paul \ The 'frog" for an arms dealer? I will have to ponder on that one for my next book!

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago#7

#9
Yes, Jim. Michael Weatherly's departure to "Bull" was one of the reasons I went back to the first season. I really don't know if NCIS can survive the loss of DeNozo.

Jim Murray

8 years ago#6

Funny, you picked on the frog thing. Could be the coked up writers on the show did it just to get up your nez. But I also thought that you would have something to say about the fact that the DeNozo (the Noz) was no longer part of the show, and that it;'s gone drastically downhill since the Michael Weatherly departure, as the witty repartee between him and Tim Murray (no relation that I know of, although I suppose all Murrays are related somehow), was far and away the best thing about the show. However...having said that, your angle is pretty solid. Grenwee. I love it. The Yanks strike again.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago#5

#4
Ce n'est pas comme si je m'attendais à ce que tous parlent couramment le français. Mais, un peu de recherche aide à éviter les ennuis. Franchement, grenwee?

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago#4

Ce n'est pas comme si je m'attendais à ce que tous parlent couramment le français. Mais, un peu de recherche aide à éviter les ennuis. Franchement, grenwee?

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago#3

#3
Ducky always talks to his "patients." I wrote the whole Kate's ghost thing off as contractual-leftovers While it's certainly true that Google Translate is rife with errors, even it knows that Grenouille is not GrenWee. Thanks for adding to the conversation, Brian McKenzie

Pascal Derrien

8 years ago#2

Mais bon sang tu as bien raison Paul :-), j'en grenouille de surprise euh je veux dire j'en fremis tellement le cliché est gros comme un americain moyen :-)

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago#1

#1
I guess this bothers French speakers more. To me, Le grenn-wee was like nails on a blackboard

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