Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

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4 Content Myths: Cutting through the Bullshit

4 Content Myths: Cutting through the Bullshit

4 Content Myths: Cutting through the Bullshit

There between a lot of talk about views versus engagement on beBee. People wonder what the heck is happening. How is it possible to have 5000 views but only 19 comments and 20 relevants? (Those stats are from my last post, BTW.)

I've even read a suggestion that the view counts are faked. Bullshit. They aren't. 

I expected to have that few engagements on even 5000 views. Particularly in this case. It's a re-post from LinkedIn.

To be completely honest, I'm surprised they are that high. 

No, I've not lost my mind.

At least, I don't think so.

I think it's high time we cut through some bullshit. 

BS #1: More Views bring more engagement

Nope, not directly anyway. 

Actually, the more the views the lower the engagement rate. Actual engagement numbers may be higher. Percentage-wise it's always lower. A lot lower.

If you think about it, you'll see why it makes sense.

For maximum engagement, a post must be tightly tailored to a specific readership. As views rise, it's less likely any particular viewer is part of the targeted readership.

It's just the way it is. There's nothing you can do about it, so why worry?

BS #2: Big Views drive comments

Views do not drive any form of engagement at all, connections do.

It's a matter of human nature.

People do not engage with people they don't know. Well, that's not 100% accurate. Most people won't. Very few will engage on the first contact. A few more on the second. More on the third, etc.

Statistically, most people will read 10.4 things before they even start thinking of engaging.They need to develop a sense of familiarity. How much is enough, varies with the individual.

I talk to strangers in the checkout line. My wife's thinks I'm nuts. She is much more reserved.

Content Publishing is a marathon, not a sprint.
Everybody who knows what they're doing

So, when I look at 5000 views on my beBee post, I remember I only have 238 connections here. Then I remember that most of them already saw the post on LinkedIn.

Thirty-odd engagements now look pretty good.

There is a point you need to take away from this. If you just re-post what you already posted on LinkedIn, don't expect much engagement. Your connections have already seen it. They've already engaged with it.

Try posting original content. You'll get things moving much faster.

Let's look at this another way. 

Let's say you see a woman walking down the street. She is quite beautiful. She exudes an air of warmth coupled with confidence. That amplifies her attractiveness.

Do you run across the street to compliment her and ask her out? 

Hell no! That would be creepy as hell.

No, you just admire from afar. That's a View.

Another time, you cross paths on the sidewalk. You nod and smile. That's a relevant/like.

After seeing her a few times, maybe you're in line at a checkout. You make small talk. That's a comment.

Another time you ask her to dinner and she accepts. That's a conversion.

It's Baby Steps.

One baby step after another leads to eventual conversion. Not every time. Not for everybody. But, often enough to make it worthwhile.

BS #3: Without Engagement, you're wasting your time.

I'm guilty of perpetuating this point. I once wrote a post titled "Views Suck!" On their own they do, but they aren't completely useless. 

It comes back to the fact that engagement through content is a marathon, not a sprint. 

I get it. We want results and we want them NOW!

Our bosses and clients are breathing down our necks screaming about ROI. The ROI is there. 

It just comes at its own pace. 

We can't will it into existence.

There's really no way to know who is lurking in the background, and what their intentions are.

Two of my last three clients have been benevolently stalking me for months. One started following my posts back in July of 2015. The other started in September.

They never commented. They may have liked. They didn't even invite me to connect. They just read and absorbed. When the need for a ghostwriter came up, they engaged.

I'm fine with that. But look more closely.

They converted after 85 posts! 

Yes, 85 posts.

You have to keep sowing the seeds. Some seeds will  fall on rich soil and sprout right away. Others, will fall on concrete and die. Still others will be picked up by birds and shoes and brought somewhere unexpected. 

They will sprout when you least expect them.

Most people I speak to only consider the first ones, the seeds that fall on rich soil. That's short-sighted. Most seeds don't fall there.

The Magic of Big Numbers

I don't go nuts over the number of views I get. 

Still, I like the idea of getting whatever ones I earn. There's no extra work on my end. I should get the benefit of whatever organic reach my posts can muster. That's why I like publishing here on beBee.

Here, I post to three hives. Readers post to other hives. That is Big Number Distribution, and that's a good thing. 

Big Number Distribution drives Views and so we get a lot of them. It does not drive engagement. It's just the first Baby Step towards connection.

Connection drives engagement.

Engagement comes in its own time. It's slow. 

Conversion is even slower.

Patience, Grasshopper, patience. Stick with it. 

You'll get there, one Baby Step at a time.

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Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #30

#39
Yeah, it was fun too. Everybody was sure I was about to lose $200. I was sure that no trust = no sale

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #29

#37
A single Tweet is like the proverbial fart in a hurricane. It's like radio ads. One spot is useless. Many spots eventually get heard. The Web App I'm working on now will soon introduce cooperation between Tweeps. It will multiply the effect of each member's following. TARGETED and ACTIVE followings are important. What you say about trust is very true. To prove that point to my sales team, I once went to the mall in old painting jeans and a sweat shirt. I had 10 crisp new $20 bills that I tried to sell for $10 each. I only managed one buyer before security asked me to leave LOL. Most people looked at the $20, looked at me, back to the $20, and refused the deal.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #28

#34
Agreed, Cheryl Snapp Conner. We should rewrite the Shadow's tagline (I think) from "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?" to, "Who knows what customers lurk in the heart of social media?"
#31
Ella de Jong welcome to beBee !

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

7 years ago #26

#31
Thanks Ella de Jong nice to see you on beBee

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #25

#29
Thanks, Sarah Elkins, that was the watered-down version of another analogy I often use. LOL

Sarah Elkins

8 years ago #24

I love the analogy of the woman on the sidewalk, Paul Croubalian. That really makes thing much more clear for me. Thanks!

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #23

#27
Sound relevant to me,

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #22

#25
Thanks, Jim Cody

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #21

This is from a comment on the LinkedIn update promoting this post: Posts drive Views, Good posts drive more Views Views drive Connections Connections drive Engagement Engagement drives Conversion

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #20

#21
Martin Wright pointed out, faster is better. Who wouldn't like instant gratification. I know I would. But, that's just not the way it is.

Martin Wright

8 years ago #19

Paul Croubalian. I have to say from my experience good engagement is more satisfying and has longer-lasting effects than huge numbers (although huge number would also be nice - i'm not going to be hypocritical about this). Sometimes the engagement ration for a post with only a couple of hundred views can be higher (both as a ratio and physical numbers) than some posts which have thousands of views but virtually no engagement. One remembers a post one has commented on - so it has a longer memory shelf-life.

Ken Boddie

8 years ago #18

Fair enough.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #17

Lol. I think I'm slow on the uptake. When we reply to a comment, a reference number is added to our comment. Why can't comment be sorted by that number?

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #16

#17
you and everybody else Ken Boddie. Trouble is, reality doesn't really care what we want. It just does its own thing.

Ken Boddie

8 years ago #15

I found a lot to which I could relate in your post, Paul. Personally, however, I lack patience and look for quick engagement. A few engagement-stimulating comments, or even a few words of appreciation or agreement, are what makes the effort of writing a post, or presenting an interesting photograph, or forwarding someone else's contribution, worthwhile for me. Love the photo!

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #14

#15
thanks, chris

Chris Spurvey

8 years ago #13

Dead in Paul Croubalian. I love your analogy of a fine lady walking down the street.

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #12

#13
Thanks Michael Angelo Icarus Yusufidis

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #11

#5
Thank you, Mamen Delgado, for both that smile, and the small talk ;-)

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #10

#6
Qamar Ali Khan: Engagement is a function of connections. Always was and always will be. First people View, then they folow, then they discuss. It's basic Human Nature

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #9

#9
Thank you, Catalina G\u00e1lvez Urrutia. It goes farther than just a competitive landscape. It takes commitment to the long road

Qamar Ali Khan

8 years ago #8

#7
That's right Javier! With the passage of time, and it'll not take long, the ordinary reader (not a writer reader) would be familiarize with the norms of engagement and we'll see a flood of engagements soon. This is because we're witnessing quite an encouraging view figure on almost every post being published here. So, I'll say that we should be ready to tackle huge engagements in the coming days.
#6
you are right ! We just launched the publishing platform ! :)

Qamar Ali Khan

8 years ago #6

Here is another engagement Paul Croubalian :-) You just nailed it and what. But Paul! If you could analyze the engagements on your earlier post or posts here, you may find that, not all but, most of them had been generated by your writer buddies. I highly appreciate them. But isn't it something related to their future planning? I mean I'm engaged on your post, and rightly expect you would be on mine, whatever I write about. You see a powerful part of your closely related connections here or on LinkedIn are from the same community. On LinkedIn, our writer connections normally initiate the engagement, and this engagement pushes or encourages other non-writer readers, may be your connections or may be the connections of your that friend, to be engaged. So, normally it starts with the way I mentioned. Here on beBee, the culture for a non-writer reader to be inspired from a writer's comment or engagement to initiate their own still is in a bit sleepy mood as compared to LinkedIn. But I'm sure as the publishing here flourishes, so will be the engagement level of the readers. Thank you very much!

Mamen 🐝 Delgado

8 years ago #5

Paul Croubalian, here you have my smile (the relevant) and a small talk (the comment) to tell you that I really liked your explanation about the high number of views. Here at beBee it's something very striking, but I like how you focus not to go crazy about it and specially the idea of keeping sowing the seeds. As a bee I would say "carrying pollen from one side to another". Good luck!!
Alberto Anaya Arcas we need to speed up for notifying their followers whenever our producers post an article !
#2
thanks for your explanations. it is exactly as you described !

Paul "Pablo" Croubalian

8 years ago #2

#1
That's probably the primary reason why I came here, Javier C\u00e1mara Rica. People just need to understand what Views really mean. I see expectations out of touch with the reality
Paul Croubalian, beBee will not limit your distribution. You choose the hives. In the next days beBee will notify 100% of your followers. I hope it will be very nice for your purposes. Many thanks again.

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